Homestuck

» Andrew wrote:

» “Petty is taking a single harmless statement someone makes, like Pleo does, and twisting its meaning around to reap maximum personal offense, and then writing a self righteous novella laced with ad hominem in response. Or what Kali does, which is needling someone with clear mental illness to the point of near psychological oblivion.”

» “I guess I’m holding myself to a different standard, and trying to be diplomatic where possible. But that said, there’s zero tolerance for any of this stuff now.”

» “And no this really isn’t an invitation for either of those two people to chime in.”

Youre going to have to ban me then. I’m glad to see that youre so sensitive and understanding to see that there is a basis for my point of view, and refrained from calling me straight up mentally ill.

Here goes.

» Muke wrote:

» “Mr Pleocoma, I gotta say we never talked much before and so the only impression I really have of you is how you’ve acted recently. The largest “mark” made here was by all the silly ruckus you made. I understand if you feel insulted by the insensitivity of the community and the decisions made by Andrew and want to leave the community but don’t act as if you are standing in innocent awe of the offenses of others while being a tool yourself.”

» “I know that you probably aren’t actually a tool and so I wish you well as well.”

Thats mighty big talk for a chap like you!

Sit down, we’re about to have “the talk”.

Andrew had always put himself out to be “a pretty okay guy”, so I felt that I had enough of a comfort zone in working with him, and extended trust to him, specifically, trusted him not to abuse the fact whatever we post is game to be used on MSPA.

This sounded like something that was pretty standard, but I now know that this was built to be deceptive.

Thus, I did not label with the phrase or equivalent the clips and stuff that I had produced that were either in early stages of production (being conceptual works put out to gauge interest and determine at what priority at which I should pursue them), or meant to be something to get the ball rolling and/or pique interest for collaboration. (If you remember and/or look, I completely spelt this out for Non Compos Mentis)

Why? because it looks pretty dickish, seems likely to be misinterpreted, and it is something that should be obvious to an experienced illustrator such as Mr. Hussie, as there is a very high probability that he himself has, or has had to in the past, create rough sketches in order to work towards final, publishable products.

Now following this train of thought, Andrew should realize that it is not a particularly common desire for an artist of any sort to want to have a rough draft of some sort be published as if it was representative of said artist’s full artistic touch and intent.

Now lets go to a parallel dimension, where Andrew is in our (which is to say, my) place. Lets say, one of his favorite journalists was openly recruiting illustrators for a big project, and he brazenly jumps at the opportunity figuring it would be an honor to work on it, he would have the chance to get to work with an idol, and to have an amazingly better chance to make a career in his field while getting to work and learn with peers with an obviously similar interest. THIS IS AN AMAZINGLY FORTUNATE EVENT!

So Andrew makes contact and is in, and is shuffled into a super-space-agey-and-parallel-dimension-like-holo-internet room along with everyone else, where they go over the contract terms. It seems pretty okay. something you’d expect, what you submit is applicable for use, of course Andrew is aiming for his work to be used and so he does not see anything that could go wrong, and additionally has no reason to not trust that he is in good hands.

Thisisgonnabesoawesomeletsgetstarted!

And so they are coordinated, and it became understood that everyone should post their contributions on new or exisiting hyperium-threaded-bulletin-boards, and that boards meant for requested commissions would pop up at times.

The very first request-board that our nameless journalist brought up was exceptionally vague about its needs, “A person drawn with crayon, fit to be in a X by Y inches-or-whatever-wacky-otherdimensional-measure-of-distance spot” with no mention on what kind of article/paragraph/chapter thing that its going to be sitting by, and what or who this image is supposed to represent.

This is questionable to (hopefully most) of the artists but they follow through anyways and many gave their take on it.

After it was chosen which one struck closest to the target, whatever it was, a noticable amount of artists disconnectified and were never heard from again. Perhaps just weak willed people.

Everyone is encouraged to work and help each other and draw inspiration from each other, and as more attempts are made to do just that..a few facts emerged. One being that the average level of proficiency of the team was embarassingly low and that Artists/peers don’t necessarily make good constructive advice givers, and those who had that capacity seemed to be too busy to get to comment any more than a handful of illustrations. (and our journalist for some unfathomable reason did not foresee any need for recruiting any consultants to help out even after these facts emerged)

Lets say Andrew notices this and feels willing to help out in those regards since the less experienced are determined, spirited, and willing, that they deserve someone to talk to and be given some advice to improve them and help them eventually get something into this magazine-or-whatever. He does his best to distribute unbiased (as much as one is capable) advice and even draws up some redlines for some to encourage a uniform direction so that the group could work together more fluidly.

As time goes on the requests appear as a polar extreme, either way too vague, or complicated and difficult. Andrew is forced to shift his attention to the complicated, as most of the peers that had the proper skillset were not willing to touch them as it is obvious that the ultimate execution of it would have them looking like the shittiest artist that ever shat on the earth. But Andrew aimed to please, still keeping to heart that its an honor to do this work, and this opportunity that fell in his lap was a fuckin miracle, so he does his best to arrange of what his idol would like to have done;

» “some way for these multiple images made by different people to overlap with each other and make a cohesive picture with any combination of images that are displayed”

Andrew made it happen, at the cost of some pride, as he knows he’ll be able to show what hes really made of at some point, and is patient.

» “An image made only with the color yellow”

This one was trickier. Andrew made a concept work for it with a bit of cheaty methods by squeezing in a shade of yellow that happened to be impossible. He tried to consult the yellow expert of the group to see if theres any way this piece could be remade legitimately, using only possible shades of yellow. The expert failed to respond. This yellow expert also previously took copies of some of Andrews illustrations with the vocal intent to collaborate on it somehow, but this also, failed to happen.

It was decided just to run with it. But when it came to approaching when the article was due to cyberlogilocast, Mr/Ms Yellow reemerges with his/her own full-yellow illustration. “Well this is good news!” Andrew thought, “This is a lot more organic and legitimate than what I made, and I’d like to somehow encourage that this be used!” so he makes a spin-off illustration that added more colors, in an attempt to show that this is a feasable theme to develop.

They wound up being used for another purpose instead, despite the inadequate state of production on them. it was something about fruit stands, or toe jams idontevenknow

This wasnt a big deal as there was enough time for a retraction if either of them had wanted to. this was at a part of the project that everything was still building up and so it would fit in sorta.

Moving on, Andrew supplied the project with concepts of various unfilled niches so that there is plenty to choose from for consideration and to gauge collaborative interests of his teammates and to try to get a general idea of which ones are most likely to be used. Its a bit difficult to have in mind while doing this that the group sells poster prints of the illustrations used in the articles that have this expectation to remain the same overall picture without a doubt, just bigger and perhaps with something fleshing out the space.

It would be nice if adequate notice of when and which of his illustrations were going to go into the articles so that he could make drastic changes like rewriting a whole bunch of lines before a concept he has supplied goes up for the first time so that the expectation for the poster print could be met without having to force it and have it wind up be something that was not his artistic intent at all. Personal integrity happens to be important to Andrew even though it doesnt appear that his teammates or boss share that feeling.

Like Mr/Ms Yellow for example. It took several more attempted collaborative efforts with this dipshit to realize that Mr/Ms Yellow was a user that was manipulating, bullying, lying, playing tricks on and making a fool of Andrew for the entertainment for his/her buddies that happen to be as immature as he/she is. Either nobody noticed or gave a shit, but Andrew sure felt fucking retarded for having wasted hard effort on this lowlife.

Since this groups organization skills and inhospitible environment had not improved over the course of a year, Andrew wanted to wash his hands of this utter nonsense, and avoided the whateverthefuck-room only to come in to submit finished poster prints. With nearly all his slated illustrations off the rack, he was looking forward to a more appropiate and fulfilling place to be, preferably amongst sane and legitimate artists, even though that meant he might have to fly solo for a little bit to get there.

But all of a sudden, an article goes up, featuring illustrations from Andrew that consisted of early concept work and redlines. This is a shocker, he recieved no notice that this was going up and they were made for articles long gone.

Despite being rather jarred by this, Andrew goes to the proper board looking to discuss the matter and get an explanation. He made a large detailed post with certain points even highlighted. The response he got was that the journalist actually did not have Andrew in mind at all in regards to this article, and simply thought this was a cool thing to do, and that he had the means and rights to do it without even a courtesy call to Andrew because of the agreement that Andrew took at the beginning of this bullshit, and despite the journalist being widely regarded as being very cool, he still took advantage of Andrew in this way. The journalist also completely ignored the [highlighted] concern about being informed and about how this wasnt stuff that Andrew felt comfortable being in the public eye. Andrew wasn’t upset that much at first, as whats done is done and he planned to explain the misunderstanding to his supporters.

All the while during the conversation, Mr/Ms Yellow and her pals, along with people that have never spoken to Andrew before and even people that Andrew had once offered genuinely well-meaning advice to, were now berating, mocking, provoking and every disgusting thing you can think of to Andrew.

But to be told something this cold from someone he once regarded with high esteem, and to see the people he once went out of his way to help try to share in success be terrible monsters to him…this was very hurtful.

• snap*

Now come back to this reality. Tell me Muke,

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT ME THAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU CAN TELL ME THAT I AM ACTING UNHONESTLY? WHO THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT CAN GO THROUGH THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT AND NOT MAKE A “SILLY RUCKUS?” YOU CALLED ME A TOOL, TRY TO PASS IT OFF AS HALF JOKINGLY, AND I’M NOT GOING TO FALL FOR IT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A LITTLE MONSTER.

» Andrew wrote:

» “You just snapped. At someone who’s done nothing but be supportive of you creatively and personally. Period.”

Making me not be able to trust you is a strange way to show your support and chumminess.

» Andrew wrote:

» “What the fuck do you think this is? Pixar?”

» “I never misrepresented anything.”

You sure misrepresented that you know what youre doing.

Andrew, I will say this loud and clear.

YOU

DO

NOT

HAVE

WHAT

IT

TAKES

TO

TALK

PROFESSIONALISM

WITH

ME.

You may well be a professional when working on your own writing and illustrating, and perhaps this is the reason why you are DELUDING yourself to think that means you are just an equal a professional in working with and leading a team.

A professional in a field that requires leadership would make certain of things like these, just a few off the top of my head:

1) Ensuring the environment is hospitiable for your group. It looks like you finally caught this one.

2) Keeping your group informed. You had not graced us with any more trust with your work than you had a year ago. I think everyone here should start treating you the same way especially after the shit you pulled with me.

3) Divide people into roles. Or people could divide themselves into roles. I’m having no problem imagining how this would play out in a project like this. We’d have composers making the bare bones for something, brainstormers adding cool hooks and riffs and stuff of that sort, producers to bring the piece to life, and masterers to add the final touches and ensuring the sound quality is stable, and i guess some diversity role for inbetween spots or people that can fulfill more than one.

There you go, an easy fucking way to get a fun, collaborative involvement and some fucking group unity.

But yeah…that would require people that actually want to collaborate, and which it turns out, very few were *actually* interested in that.

So okay what I really want to explain is this:

What makes a professional a professional is that they know so much about their field of expertise that theyre going to take the best- or most effecient- known available action or actions in an attempt to achieve a specific and desirable result. Do you get it? Professionals use certain methods because those methods are proven to work correctly. So yes, you bring up Pixar, and I realize this is not Pixar, but if you legitimately wanted to have a professional environment, you would at the very least making some steps towards emulating the processes and activities that would be present in a professional studio such as Pixar.

Right now youre set on taking your own approaches in doing whatever the fuck you want whimsically. This does not fall within the bounds of “professional.” This is “EXPERIMENTAL” and you are EXPERIMENTING with the PEOPLE that you GATHERED in this barbed-wire forum like MICE.

A lot of us came here to experience working/collaborating with you and each other to make something special happen. You have not allowed this due to your stubborn nature and distrust for us so that nobody here actually got to experience how a coordinated effort should go. All you did was piss some people off, play enabler for some troll assholes, and keep the naive fooled that theyre going to gain something out of this. This place manifests stress and if you have to wonder why, perhaps you should reread what I wrote about what I experienced here.

What were your alternatives then?

I dunno, how about:

- HIRING AN ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL MUSICAL COORDINATOR OR CONSULTANT FOR THE OCCASION

- GOING TO A WEBSITE LIKE http://WWW.NEWGROUNDS.COM THAT IS FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH MUSIC FOR FLASH ANIMATORS AND GAME CREATORS TO UTILIZE. (Youd have just had to browse the stuff for something you needed, send off a pm to the artist requesting you commission them and sell their song[s] on your homestuck albums and they would be most inclined to agree.)

- HIRING JUST A FEW PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS THAT ARE WILLING TO PLAY BY YOUR FUCKED UP RULES AND THUS MAKING IT WORTHWHILE FOR THEM

ANY of those are better and more humane than your method of THROW ALL THE SPAGHETTI-PEOPLE AT THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS.

I also took the liberty to get a 2nd opinion of your actions from an actual professional illustrator/animator with nothing at stake with this. They will remain anonymous here.

>Anonymous: oh yeah, you mentioned storyboards

>Anonymous: there’s none of that going on?

>Pleocoma: none

>Pleocoma: its kind of not professional to not strive to be more professional right

>Anonymous: yup

>Anonymous: but think about it this way

>Anonymous: storyboard is to moving media as rough sketches are to any form of visual art

>Anonymous: the importance is multiplied manyfold if there’s a crew to lead

>Anonymous: i dunno about you but i’m certainly not clairvoyant

>Anonymous: i’m certainly with you on the storyboad thing

>Anonymous: and i do understand that it’s a hassle to lay it all out in ‘bard

>Anonymous: *’board

>Anonymous: but damn, he’s way too deep into this mspa project, can’t really overlook such a basic thing

>Pleocoma: well yea but a storyboard could also come in the form of a script

>Pleocoma: basically, scripted actions, since spoken dialogue is not existant

>Pleocoma: and a script really shouldnt be much hassle

>Anonymous: it really isn’t

>Anonymous: it’s basic of basic”

Oh and its so awesome to continue to see the people I once gave a legitimate shit about come in now to have their laugh and hold their head high and mighty at me as if I’m a lunatic… the fucking joke is on you, you fucking tools.

VoltaicVolition wrote:

What in the fucking world is wrong with you? This is beyond judgementality at this point, which is WHAT YOU ARE DOING ASSHOLE. This me telling what happened with no ambiguity, because apparently people DO care enough to the fucking point to make 10 MINUTE LONG VIDEO RANTS about it. I made the observation about the trolls REPEATEDLY, BEFORE THAT THREAD YOU MENTIONED HAPPENED anyways. Take the fucking information or dont, but dont claim that YOU have the RIGHT to JUDGE.

And its not like I blogged about Andrew, or anything equivalent like A 10 MINUTE LONG SLANDEROUS RANT on Youtube over it. It tool place on HIS TURF where HE COULDVE DONE ANYTHING HE WANTED TO IT WHILE IT HAPPENED. Subsequent discussion took place through Email with those that were curious to hear me out, and my responses back to youtubers had been pretty tame until you came in, thinking you are some sort of SAVIOR for MORAL JUSTICE. WAKE UP, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE AND A LOSER.

HOW FUNNY IT IS THAT YOU WERE BASING YOUR HOLIER-THAN-THOU BULLCRAP ON INFO THAT I PROVIDED, AND THEN WHEN I COME AND CLARIFY THE SHIT YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT. YOURE A VERY SPECIAL KIND OF WORTHLESS PIECE OF SCUM. I HOPE ANDREW BREAKS YOUR PATHETIC LITTLE HEART WHEN YOU TRY TO PROPOSE TO HIM.

I asked for your damn video to be removed through PM, I was not unreasonable about it, and yet youre so fucking DELUSIONAL that you believe that you're not doing something INTRUSIVE and PERSECUTIONAL.

Bus Ride by ~Goatmon. Sitting on the bus someone's child is crying out no one really cares. Some guy on my left chats away on his cell phone griping about life. Mother and doughter share some snacks while killing time in their cozy seats. Waiting at the lights it turns green before there's time to watch the flowers. HEY EVERYONE, IM HERE TO TELL YOU AS A FACT THAT GOATMON IS A LUNATIC. MY PROOF IS THAT HE WRITES HAIKUS BADLY AND IMMATURELY. Don't like this? TAKE DOWN THE VID AND I'LL DELETE.

If not, ther will be much more embarassing shit that I will be FULLY JUSTIFIED IN SPREADING ABOUT YOU IN RETURN FOR YOUR STUPID CRAP ABOUT ME, AS APPARENTLY THIS SHIT IS LEGIT ON YOUTUBE.

I GUESS YOURE IMMUNE TO REASON BECAUSE DADDY LOCKED YOU IN THE CLOSET TOO MANY TIMES, OR MAYBE CAUSE AND EFFECT ARE REVERSED AND HE LOCKED YOU IN FOR BEING A WORTHLESS MISERABLE TURD.

OH, I GUES IM NOT BEING INSANE ENOUGH. I GUESS I SHOULD MAKE SOME SORT OF SUGGESTION THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE IN A PAINFUL MANNER SO THAT YOU HAVE GROUNDS TO CLAIM THAT I AM THREATENING YOU. NOT GONNA HAPPEN, PIECE OF SHIT.

BEFORE YOU EVEN OPEN YOUR FAT MOUTH TO SUGGEST IT, THIS IS NOT PROOF OF ANY PARTICULAR MENTAL STATE THAT YOURE GOING TO CLAIM I HAVE OTHER THAN BEING RELENTLESSLY PROVOKED BY SOME AS FUCKING IDIOTIC AND STUBBORN AS YOU ARE.

MILK! AHAHAHAHA YOU ARE SO HILARIOUS. I BET IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE HILARIOUS IN A YOUTUBE POOP BACKED BY YOUR TERRIBLE OCARINA BULLSHIT!

A SPECIAL THANK YOUGOES TO YOUTUBE STAFF FOR REALLY GIVING A DAMN ABOUT MY SAFETY AND PRIVACY.

IT JUST OCCURS TO ME THAT YOU PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WORD "PROVOCATION" MEANS! I'M WILLING TO DONATE A DICTONARY TO YOU, LET ME KNOW, DUMBFUCK.

WHO EXACTLY GAVE YOU THE ABILITY TO REMOVE RIGHTS FROM PEOPLE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ANYWAYS?

Kitsune wrote:

tl;dr nobody cares

so some shit happened on the internets and you're angry. boo hoo, move on with life it's just shitty music in a shitty comic, no reason to have an aneurysm now that it's already over

LittleBigSnerky wrote:

Aww, I thought VV was being Karkat. Am disappointed.

VoltaicVolition wrote:

I had an "aneurysm" because I was still getting shit from 30 year old introvert hussie fanboys who think me refuting trash being talked by people who apparently do not have brains, is justification for a slanderous youtube video about me. He did the exact thing as Andrew, in that it was INSTANTLY ASSUMED that I am "mentally ill." Thats Andrew's professional demeanor at work, and people like goatmon should show you what it breeds."

Do not associate me with Andrew Hussie in any way in a public sector.

I am sick and tired of being dragged back to your fucked up fandom because you don't seem to get the idea that I want nothing to do with what he is doing.

Wish I left the place earlier on, but can you blame me for being decieved, needing to actually experience that the man did not live up to his carefully crafted image? Please stop disallowing me to live down this mistake.

-BB

THE DRAMA. WILL. NEVER STOP. Dr.Cthulhu 06:34, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are witty, but I truly do not like this. It is your choice not to grow up, but leave me out of it. This is against the wishes of both me and Andrew. And for what? So you can pick on someone that is easy to pick on because of the lack of any resistance from an equivalent horde of trolls? What the fuck is wrong with you? I am just a human being that wants this to stop. You are something less than human that is so pathetic that you can only feel good about yourself by endless harassment of a musician whose work you ironically enjoyed. You know, yeah. This is all rather backwards. I think I will laugh at you and your loser faux-hipster clique and at how you are so desperate to fill your shallow husks with entertainment derived from bullying, nestled up safe in your mob of equally lethargic golems that lead monumentally depressing lives in that mommy and daddy didn't love you enough to use reason to educate you instead of the vicious drunken beatings and inescapable mental devaluation that it turns out you shits actually deserved. You spend all your free time being perverse and "cool" on the internet with all your "witty" memetic-diseased buddies, just because you already know there is no place for you in the world, and you are just waiting for the cosmic toilet to flush you all the way to rock bottom when you'll be literally feeding on scum, wishing you had made any sort of effort at all to not be an absolute retard. So right now it may seem that you're on top of the world, chuckling it up over some "lesser artist crushed by a nervous breakdown" ( 11-05-2009 01:14 PM !!!!) that is so easy to attack, being a complete stranger except for the art he made that suddenly all respect was lost for, from everybody involved with your psychotic cult...But guess what? I'm actually a competent and intelligent person, whereas everything that you continue to do to human beings that you don't even know illustrates that you are the opposite. My emotional "problem" is under control without medication, and the only reason it went out of control in the first place was the conspiracy made by your troll friends posing as musicians and illustrators to deliberately find the specific pressure points and strike them, knowing full well how it would prompt me to overreact. My vocabulary is strong enough now to not allow this to happen ever again. I also know how to report cyber crimes. Crimes, you know, things like harassment and hacking? Keep fucking with me at your own peril. You can interpret that as a dare as I know you will, and I will proceed to laugh my ass off at you tying your own noose from your sheer desperation of bringing any kind of asinine meaning and selfish joy in your life. Sure, there's a bunch of you, but you know the truth as much as I do; You're just pussyshit bandwagoning popularity-chasing obsessive compulsive nearly braindead lemmings, and I find it HILARIOUS! -BB

BLAH BLAH HUGE BITCH also tl;dr Menek 23:50, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bolin, bolin, bolin. Your ability to completely overreact to any given situation or perceived thread against yourself is just going to make people not want to listen to a single thing you say, including this. If you want to be removed, I'd suggest asking politely, and not blowing up over one joking comment. If they honor your request, then good, and everyone's happy. If not, then there's not much you could do about it, aside from legal action, but that seems a bit harsh, especially for a wiki, a collection of information about a given topic. I'd think it was more out of fanservice to you that they even mention you, I mean, if no one cared about your stuff, no one would want to make note of it. At any rate, you need to not make this such a huge deal with yourself, or at any rate, just chill. Really, seriously, chill. Insulting the people you're trying to work with to remove yourself from MSPA is a horrible way to get anything done. --SI

Look, Andrew Hussie never asked me how I was to be accredited for my contributions. I was expecting only my handle to show up to the public. I never made a fuss about it because there was some intimidation factor or uncertainty to how I was supposed to properly approach such a "grandiose" persona. I was disillusioned as soon as he unjustifiably slung mud at me, with no regard that I was a dedicated supporter, from the first time I was ever outwardly upset on the forum over a big set up to allow the juvenile delinquents he was harboring to start attacking me as if I were a big jerk that was hogging all the other musicians' gold. After my episode of mania, Andrew only exacerbated the pain inflicted on me by treating me as public enemy #1 and encouraging the tyrannical and systematical harassment of me by name that continues to this day. He had the option to be adult about this, even if I was not acting so well under stress. It still shocks me that the majority will defend his actions, see no issue in the activity of bullying, and generally don't respect other people as people because "this is the internet." I don't share your opinion about the lack of seriousness inherent of the communication medium of internet networking. I don't share your opinion that I should be able to "take a joke" like a suggesetion of suicide. To enforce such opinions on me is tyranny of the majority. My freedom is taken away by your subjugation. I view what you're doing as a big deal since this forceful defamation legitimately sabotages my future. And I suspect this comment won't show up tumblr because it does nothing to troll and humiliate me as a "good joke" as Goatmon calls it. I eagerly await your trendy and dismissive catch phrases and trivialization of my ordeal. -BB

"MSPA Wiki editors: Resist great urge to make subjuggulator jokes." Okay with the trendy and dismissive catch phrase out of the way, let me say th following: I really like your music and what happened to you is unfortunate (for lack of better words), but I am not sure if you can actually take legal action against this wiki mentioning your music contributions. It's not like it's libel or slander, nor is it untrue. It's simply a collection of information on a wiki. I could understand if you want no links to your actual work on the wiki or something, because that is your property and you probably are able to sue against that. But I doubt you can actual do anything about the wiki mentioning your former involvment with Andrew/MSPA. Then again I am not a lawyer, so I don't really know, just my guess.BitterLime 15:42, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

You seem to be under the impression I owe you an explanation for something. Perhaps completely eliminating your influence from my work and banning you from the forum did not carry the intended message. That was your cue to get on with your life and never have anything to do with me ever again. You also seem to believe I hold myself as a model of professionalism, when all I really did was suggest I behave more professionally than you, which I do by miles. But who cares.

By further engaging me in this way, it's apparent you don't understand how I truly regard you as a person. Let me make it clear.

I fucking despise you. You are simply the most unpleasant, venomous, hostile, self righteous and ungrateful person I have ever encountered, on the internet or otherwise. Your conduct repulses me. The way you treat other people is despicable, and reading your sanctimonious, quote-laden, umbrage-drenched horseshit makes me feel physically ill. This is all completely true. There is not even a little bit of embellishment here designed to antagonize you. It is how you have caused me to regard you with the actions you have taken.

Is that clear enough?

I am now viewing your continued interaction with me as harassment. Please stop. Please do not make an attempt to contact me in any way, ever. Do not post on my forums. Do not talk about me on your blog. And if at all possible, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from even thinking about me. It's time to move on.

This is a simple thing to ask, and even simpler to comply with. It is fair warning. If your harassment persists, I will become very unhappy, and I will take action to ensure that it stops. This is a road you do not want to go down.

Any reply beyond a simple affirmative or apology will be regarded as further harassment.